Curse

Ultimate Warrior · Jan 12, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

My build is:
cyclone axe
gladiators defense
bonnetis defence
mending
live vicariously
watch yourself
executioners
and one more axe skill that you like

11 healing, 10 tactics, 12 axe, and 4 strength

If you know how to use the build right, it works very good and fast.

Oh yeah my runes are minor strength, minor axe, minor tactice, major abspor, and major vig.

dimirpaw · Jan 12, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

insidious420 I tried again and did very well, just those rockshots can mess you up bad.

Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so..

Murder In China · Jan 12, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21

^ You seem to be missing a Knight's/Ascalon armor which helps lots with an additional -2 damage reduction.

Me NoFat · Jan 12, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51

This is all you need and it is fast. This is not my build...but I have tried them all when it comes to griff/minos farming.

Healing: 10
Str: over 10
Tactics: over 10
Axe: Get a req 9 and meet that req

Mix whatever runes you want to achive the above.

Heal Sig
Cyclone Axe
Spring (can be replaced with axe skill)
Disrupting Chop (for the monk boss...can be replaced)
Bon. Def
Glads Def
Live Vic
Mending

You will never have a health problem. The mending will be +3 and with the Healing Attrib at 10 you will get +10 per hit from Live Vic. on cyclone axe which is like 80 or so health when farming griffons. If you need more health then use your sig while glads is up.

Most of you damage comes from Glads Def so have it up whenever it is charged. You will get extra damage from cyclone if you meet your weapons req but that is not needed. When not using glads spam cyclone and Bons Def. In a large group Bon Def is recharged instantly after each cyclone. The key is to always have a stance up and make sure you go into a fight with at least 5 energy.

You will never run out of energy when fighting. Bons Def fills up your energy so fast your head spins.

I only do the griffon portion of the farming run at the Rock now because it is much faster then porting over to finish off the minos. If I want to kill minos I just go to Elonas. It takes me about 5-7 min for a griffon run at the Rock and about 5 min for a minos run at Elonas

Dyzfunctioned · Jan 12, 2006, 05:52 AM // 05:52

12+1+1 Tactics
12+3 Strength

Flurry
Deadly Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Victory is Mine!
Healing Signet
Watch Yourself!
[Skill of Choice]

Zealous Sword of Defense..
+45/2 Stance Shield

Owns Trolls, Hydras, Griffons, whatever...
Warrior not relying on secondary is the shit.

Me NoFat · Jan 12, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Flurry
Deadly Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Victory is Mine!
Healing Signet
Watch Yourself!
[Skill of Choice]

Warrior not relying on secondary is the shit.

Want to know what makes that build better?

[Skill of Choice] = Secondary

Listen people....Guildwars Gods gave us Secondary Professions so we could use them. I could care less what your secondary is just use it. If you have 1/2 a brain you will know that what I speak here is simply the truth.

Dyzfunctioned <----That name says it all. A W only build is almost always Dyzfunctioned. I know that sounds personal but I don't intend to insult you just shake the hell out of you and everyone else until they understand that you have secondary skills for a reason.

Sk8tborderx · Jan 12, 2006, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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Originally Posted by Young Hero

Why do you need Dolyak sig to farm griffs/minos , they don't knock you down.

I use dolyak becuase I wanted to come up with a build that did not rely on stances. Also, with dolyak and watch yourself up I take no damage from regular attacks. The most damage I take with both up that I have seen is 30 and that is from final thrust when I was below 50% health. I can solo with my build at 180 health, I tried it with stances and would take too many hits. Keep in mind that I am using a sword and my elite is glads defense so I am not going to get enough adrenaline to be in a stance at all times.

Battle Torn · Jan 12, 2006, 10:09 AM // 10:09

I still cant find a good way to make movies of a griffon run... so maybe if you post your IGN or look out for me we can go griffon farming and size up each others build? Ive done this before, one player just has to die and watch the other for a run, its much better than posting. Im only interested in finding out the best build but am still waiting for someone to show me a better build than what I use already, but Im always on the lookout for something new or an improvement, or even to compare between secondary classes.

Give me a whisper and post your IGN

stool_cannon · Jan 12, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

10 minutes is a long time, I can solo all the griffons and minos then go to elona and solo the minos at beginning, then solo trolls outside of droks in about 15-20 minutes. If you are soloing just griffons it should take 5-7 minutes max or it's just not worth it.

I call BS, Pm me in game and prove it. I couldn't do it that fast with my pre-patch invincimonk.

Yakumo · Jan 12, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Re: All Warrior Augury Farming Build

My team mate and I were curious about this and he modified the build from the opening post for me to try. The changes took into consideration that I had only arrived in the desert a couple of nights ago, I have no elite skills, not done the 15 attribute quests, and not planning to change armor (e.g to Gladiators/Ascalon).

Here's the set up.

Lvl 20 W/N... Health 471... Energy 20.

Armor: Ringmail from jungle collectors (AL: 71)
Sword: Furious Long Sword of Shelter (Dmg: 13-19) - modded sword reward from Villainy of Galrath quest
Shield: Aegis (AL: 16 with -1 damage reduction while hexed)

Attributes:

Strength = 13 (+2 rune)
Swordsmanship = 6 (+1 rune)
Tactics = 13 (+1 rune, +1 helmet)

Skills:

1. Riposte
2. Deadly Riposte
3. Endure Pain
4. "Watch Yourself!"
5. Shield Stance
6. Bonetti's Defense / Power Attack
7. Healing Sig
8. Dolyak Sig

All the skills are defensive with 2 offering offensive abilities as well. The fights are usually quite long as the main damage is coming from Riposte and Deadly Riposte, each doing around 50. Not as quick or effective as other builds but I can easily hold my ground against 3-4 Griffons/Minotaurs, 5 is OK-ish, anymore and it can get a bit franctic to not good! I might tweak it and drop Swordsmanship for more Tactics and see how that goes. I'll not meet the min req. for the sword, but it's only there to build adrenaline.

It's not quick, but workable. Farming quickly was not the reason for this, it was to satisfy our curiosity, for fun and for a challenge. The drops are just a bonus. Also, I have read a number of farming builds and most seemed to require at least an elite/high attributes/good armor or weapon/etc and I wondered whether it was doable without these. Now I know, it's doable, but just slow.

Battle Torn · Jan 12, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

here is a screenie of my build in action

Xenrath · Jan 12, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

This thread's kind of meandering all over the place lol anyway, to the guy who thinks it's not possible to farm the griffons in a few mins (pre patch) here's an old video

http://files.filefront.com/PumpkinFa.../fileinfo.html

Done that one around the Mad King (aka Halloween) event. About 3 mins from start to finish. I also had a different build which could kill the whole lot in about 2min30-ish. Of course it probably takes longer now post AOE patch, and different skills from the one in the video; I dunno, I stopped with that boring stuff after I had enough money for armour upgrades

Battle Torn · Jan 12, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

yeh its tougher now.. glads def is prob best elite to have now..slower but still good enough for me

Young Hero · Jan 12, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by dimirpaw

insidious420 I tried again and did very well, just those rockshots can mess you up bad.

Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so..

Remember the more you aggro the higher you're health will stay as long as Vig is kept alive.This Glads-Vig-Cyclone-Bon build is frigging addictive and so easy that I wonder if Cyclone will be nerfed to only hit 2 to 3 at a time

iamchris · Jan 12, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Hm, I found this a little while back, this guy seems to have no trouble at all..
http://rapidshare.de/files/10684475/...rming.wmv.html

Another link:
http://files.filefront.com/A_walk_in.../fileinfo.html

Young Hero · Jan 12, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

My weapons of choice

Axe helm
Glads chest,legs,feet
Knights gauntlets ,all dyed black-minos have been generous with at least 10 black drops.

Dyzfunctioned · Jan 12, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me NoFat

Want to know what makes that build better?

[Skill of Choice] = Secondary

Listen people....Guildwars Gods gave us Secondary Professions so we could use them. I could care less what your secondary is just use it. If you have 1/2 a brain you will know that what I speak here is simply the truth.

Dyzfunctioned <----That name says it all. A W only build is almost always Dyzfunctioned. I know that sounds personal but I don't intend to insult you just shake the hell out of you and everyone else until they understand that you have secondary skills for a reason.

Wow... Not denying secondary professions are nice (I use a secondary for every other farming technique), but to flame my build because it's warrior only, when the thread was intended to be warrior only (read the title ^_^). Also, say you are a W/Me... How does the secondary help you, at all? Personally I'd rather have an Endure Pain or To the Limit! than any mesmer skill other than Phsyical or Ele Resistance, which would then be useless with Flurry.
Do you see Racthoh getting flamed for doing FoW With no secondary skills? Some people like to be able to utilize the warrior aspect to the fullest, as with Lambda's Perdition build.
Also, throwing in an insult based on a name... Sad. Sorry if you didn't like my build, but it's no reason to criticize my build, without any constructive comments, due to having no secondary, when several builds are W/X. Also, nothing personal, but you might want to try a dictionary sometimes, as neither Dyzfunctioned or Dysfunctioned are words... I believe the term you were looking for would be Dysfunctional

Me NoFat · Jan 13, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Also, throwing in an insult based on a name... Sad

Agreed and you have my apology.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Dyzfunctioned or Dysfunctioned are words... I believe the term you were looking for would be Dysfunctional

As far as the dictionary goes I was making fun of your name not trying to spell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Also, say you are a W/Me... How does the secondary help you, at all?

If you read my early post I included all the reasons to use a secondary. If you want a good reason to have a mes secondary try something like this:

Str: Above 10
Tactics: Above 10
Axe: Meet Req

Nice thing is you need nothing in mes attribs to get 30 seconds of +40 armor and the full effect of Epidemic and Phantom.

Heal Sig
Physical Resistance **edit removed Live Vic (monk skill)
Cyclone Axe
Glads Def
Bon Def
Epedimic
Phantom Pain
Axe Twist

The idea here is to use epedimic to transfer conditions then use Phantom of Pain to cause Deep Wound and Axe Twist to cause Weakness and physical resistance whenever fighting lower #'s and bons def is not charging fast enough. The only problem is healing but you shouldn't be taking much damage.

Now all the griffons have a Deep Wound and Weakness for the next 10-20 seconds. The rest of the build is normal. I am not sure this will work I am just thinking on the fly about a good reason to use it. If this doesn't work then I am sure with some debate here and some thought there are reasons to use mes secondary to farm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Do you see Racthoh getting flamed for doing FoW With no secondary skills?

The reason I flamed your post is because unlike Racthoh the W build that you and the OP posted can be improved with secondary skills. The build Racthoh put together cannot be improved for what it is used for by any secondary skills. Over 99% of the time seconday skills are there to help you out. All I am saying is use them to be more effective. There is no W only build that can kill minos or griffons faster then a W/X build.

Dyzfunctioned · Jan 13, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me NoFat

Agreed and you have my apology.

As far as the dictionary goes I was making fun of your name not trying to spell.

If you read my early post I included all the reasons to use a secondary. If you want a good reason to have a mes secondary try something like this:

Heal Sig
Live Vic
Cyclone Axe
Glads Def
Bon Def
Epedimic
Phantom Pain
Axe Twist

The idea here is to use epedimic to transfer conditions then use Phantom of Pain to cause Deep Wound and Axe Twist to cause Weakness.

Now all the griffons have a Deep Wound and Weakness for the next 10-20 seconds. The rest of the build is normal. I am not sure this will work I am just thinking on the fly about a good reason to use it. If this doesn't work then I am sure with some debate here and some thought there are reasons to use mes secondary to farm.

The reason I flamed your post is because unlike Racthoh the W build that you and the OP posted can be improved with secondary skills. The build Racthoh put together cannot be improved for what it is used for by any secondary skills. Over 99% of the time seconday skills are there to help you out. All I am saying is use them to be more effective. There is no W only build that can kill minos or griffons faster then a W/X build.

Apology accepted :P And I make no point to say W/X is better Than W/ with Secondary. Also, you used Warrior, Monk, and Mesmer classes in that build :P

Knido · Jan 13, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

for the most tedious killing ever, use a Glimmering mark / riposte build using a shocking sword and watch 20 griffs and minos get blind and swing like drunkards :P